tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13642801.post116057616279403367..comments2024-01-07T09:34:44.086-05:00Comments on What Canst Thou Say?: Phyllis Tickle and Joanna Macy? Anybody?Robin M.http://www.blogger.com/profile/10336915224193704866noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13642801.post-76019011790086636242009-06-26T04:41:35.628-04:002009-06-26T04:41:35.628-04:00I've done some training with Joanna Macy's...I've done some training with Joanna Macy's kind of buddhism and I'm really interested in living christian response to that same perspective. Look forward to read the Tickle book and then would love to compare notes. <br /><br />I love how Macy's work can help people connect to the knowledge of the pain in the world, and use that heart-knowing to move through to act out of love and the power of our unity with the whole earth and people.Alice Y.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16267449289432878102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13642801.post-50197877565155727532009-02-08T21:21:00.000-05:002009-02-08T21:21:00.000-05:00i just finished the great emergence, and i think i...i just finished <I>the great emergence</I>, and i think i liked it. i loved the history element, but something about the way it connected to the conclusions she was making was really jarring for me. i think i liked them, too, but somehow it was a big mental shift to switch between "fact" and "theory" (which is a very artificial sort of divison, but i think is what got me stuck?).cubbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01967417546891684102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13642801.post-42912229304195195272008-12-31T15:01:00.000-05:002008-12-31T15:01:00.000-05:00Robin, I skimmed all the early chapters and read t...Robin, I skimmed all the early chapters and read the last in the Phyllis Tickle book. As an old history student, the early chapters were a reminder of history I knew, about how technological and social changes affect our religious practives and beliefs directly.<BR/> <BR/>(I did not know, and was shocked to learn, that some modern women have used birth control pills to delay a period for a few days, or even to prevent menstruation altogether.)<BR/> <BR/>It's a long stretch to assign change in the church to a 500 year cycle, but it made a catchy outline for Tickle's presentation.<BR/> <BR/>The grid and circles in the last chapter seemed pretty artificial at first and then began to work for me, again as a good way to conceptualize a complex topic. I learned more about the Pentacostals than I had known before, and I'll try to learn more, as they are the fastest growing group, according to Phyllis Tickle. I had never heard of John Wimber, but I had noted in Soul Graffiti the influence of Quakers and Brethren. <BR/> <BR/>I don't really see much commonality here with Joanna Macy, whose Great Turning is, I think, more about our realizing finally that we are approaching the brink. She says we are in a closed and self-correcting system, and thus will turn away from ecological disaster just in time. (Does it not appear to be happening as we speak?!)<BR/> <BR/>Thanks for sharing all this with me and others. (You can put this response into your blog series if you want.) I'll bring the book back Sunday.<BR/> <BR/>Cheers...............ElizabethAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com